perm2gc
12-22 06:08 PM
Efren Hernandez III, Director of the Business and Trade Services Branch at INS in Washington, D.C. announced in late December 2001 that the INS does not recognize or provide any "grace period" for maintaining status after employment termination. Mr. Hernandez explained this strict interpretation by reasoning that there is no difference between H1B holders and other non-immigrants, like students, to justify a stay in the U.S. beyond the explicit purpose of their admission. Mr. Hernandez admits that this may cause hardship to some terminated or laid off H1B workers, but believes that the INS position is legally justified.
Although the INS' strict interpretation of the law may have legal justification, the result to others seems harsh and unreasonable, considering the fact that the lay off or termination is completely beyond the control of the H1B worker. This strict INS position may also appear to be contrary to the purpose of allowing H1B workers admission to the U.S. since they helped to fill a critical need in our economy when the U.S. was suffering acute shortages of qualified, skilled workers. Perhaps, it would be more fair if the INS were to allow a reasonable grace period, perhaps 60 days, as mentioned in the June 19, 2001 INS Memo.
H1B workers should not be equated to other non-immigrants. For example, H1Bs can be distinguished from students. Students, in most cases, have exclusive control over whether they can maintain their status. Generally they determine whether they remain in school and satisfy the purpose of their admission to the U.S. If they choose not to remain in school, or they do not maintain certain passing grades or do not have sufficient funds, then they are no longer considered to be students maintaining their status and should return to their home countries. On the other hand, H1B workers enter the U.S. to engage in professional employment based on the needs of U.S. employers. They do not have exclusive control over whether they are laid off.
Although we are in a soft economy with massive employee cutbacks in a variety of fields, many of these H1B workers are able to find new employment within reasonable timeframes. Some companies, at least, are in need of these workers. Salaries have dropped in many cases and recruitment of workers from outside the U.S. has significantly slowed; but, to a large extent, the need for these existing workers remains. It would benefit U.S. companies and suit the purpose of the H1B visa program to allow a reasonable grace period for these laid-off H1B workers to seek new employment within a realistic time frame.
Adding to the woes of H1B workers, Mr. Hernandez addressed the issue of extensions of stay following brief status lapses. In short, the regulations require that an individual be in status at the time an extension of status is requested. Failure to maintain status will result in the H1B petition being granted, if appropriate, without an extension of stay. No I-94 card will be attached to the approval notice. Instead, the beneficiary will be directed to obtain a visa at a U.S. consulate in a foreign country and, only afterward, will return to lawful H1B status by re-entering the U.S. Although INS has a regulation that allows the Service to overlook brief lapses in status, extraordinary circumstances are required. Mr. Hernandez stated that even very short lapses in status are not justified in the context of terminated H1B workers, absent extraordinary circumstances.
Mr. Hernandez specifically negated the existence of a ten-day grace period following employment termination. There are ten-day grace periods allowed in three other instances. These are (a) the H1B worker can be admitted to the U.S. up to 10 days prior to the validity of his/her petition; (b) the H1B worker has a ten-day grace period following the expiration of the period of admission; and (c) in the case of denials of extensions, the H1B worker is given up to ten days to depart the U.S. Unfortunately, termination of employment is not covered by any of these exceptions. Some find it hard to see why a terminated H1B worker should be treated any differently from the H1B worker whose period of H1B admission has expired. There is far less warning and predictability in cases of layoffs or of other terminations.
Rumors are also circulating about a 30-day grace period should INS deny an H1B petition or extension of status and require the person to depart the U.S. There is also a 60-day time frame, proposed by the INS itself in the June 19, 2001 Memo, analyzing the American Competitiveness in the Twenty First Century Act (AC21). In this memo, the INS discussed the law allowing a person to be eligible for H1B extensions beyond 6 years if the person previously held either H1B status or had an H1B visa. The INS surmised that the law envisioned that one who previously held H1B status should be entitled, possibly up to 60 days, to the benefits of that section of AC21. Efren Hernandez clarified that none of these grace periods applies in the case of an H1B worker who is terminated or laid off
Although the INS' strict interpretation of the law may have legal justification, the result to others seems harsh and unreasonable, considering the fact that the lay off or termination is completely beyond the control of the H1B worker. This strict INS position may also appear to be contrary to the purpose of allowing H1B workers admission to the U.S. since they helped to fill a critical need in our economy when the U.S. was suffering acute shortages of qualified, skilled workers. Perhaps, it would be more fair if the INS were to allow a reasonable grace period, perhaps 60 days, as mentioned in the June 19, 2001 INS Memo.
H1B workers should not be equated to other non-immigrants. For example, H1Bs can be distinguished from students. Students, in most cases, have exclusive control over whether they can maintain their status. Generally they determine whether they remain in school and satisfy the purpose of their admission to the U.S. If they choose not to remain in school, or they do not maintain certain passing grades or do not have sufficient funds, then they are no longer considered to be students maintaining their status and should return to their home countries. On the other hand, H1B workers enter the U.S. to engage in professional employment based on the needs of U.S. employers. They do not have exclusive control over whether they are laid off.
Although we are in a soft economy with massive employee cutbacks in a variety of fields, many of these H1B workers are able to find new employment within reasonable timeframes. Some companies, at least, are in need of these workers. Salaries have dropped in many cases and recruitment of workers from outside the U.S. has significantly slowed; but, to a large extent, the need for these existing workers remains. It would benefit U.S. companies and suit the purpose of the H1B visa program to allow a reasonable grace period for these laid-off H1B workers to seek new employment within a realistic time frame.
Adding to the woes of H1B workers, Mr. Hernandez addressed the issue of extensions of stay following brief status lapses. In short, the regulations require that an individual be in status at the time an extension of status is requested. Failure to maintain status will result in the H1B petition being granted, if appropriate, without an extension of stay. No I-94 card will be attached to the approval notice. Instead, the beneficiary will be directed to obtain a visa at a U.S. consulate in a foreign country and, only afterward, will return to lawful H1B status by re-entering the U.S. Although INS has a regulation that allows the Service to overlook brief lapses in status, extraordinary circumstances are required. Mr. Hernandez stated that even very short lapses in status are not justified in the context of terminated H1B workers, absent extraordinary circumstances.
Mr. Hernandez specifically negated the existence of a ten-day grace period following employment termination. There are ten-day grace periods allowed in three other instances. These are (a) the H1B worker can be admitted to the U.S. up to 10 days prior to the validity of his/her petition; (b) the H1B worker has a ten-day grace period following the expiration of the period of admission; and (c) in the case of denials of extensions, the H1B worker is given up to ten days to depart the U.S. Unfortunately, termination of employment is not covered by any of these exceptions. Some find it hard to see why a terminated H1B worker should be treated any differently from the H1B worker whose period of H1B admission has expired. There is far less warning and predictability in cases of layoffs or of other terminations.
Rumors are also circulating about a 30-day grace period should INS deny an H1B petition or extension of status and require the person to depart the U.S. There is also a 60-day time frame, proposed by the INS itself in the June 19, 2001 Memo, analyzing the American Competitiveness in the Twenty First Century Act (AC21). In this memo, the INS discussed the law allowing a person to be eligible for H1B extensions beyond 6 years if the person previously held either H1B status or had an H1B visa. The INS surmised that the law envisioned that one who previously held H1B status should be entitled, possibly up to 60 days, to the benefits of that section of AC21. Efren Hernandez clarified that none of these grace periods applies in the case of an H1B worker who is terminated or laid off
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GCBy3000
08-23 04:28 PM
I dunno from where they come upwith number. From the same site look at this link
http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY05tableI.pdf - This is given at foreign out post.
EB - 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
43129 39289 29712 28624 21290
and compare with
http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY05tableII.pdf
and compare with below data.
YEAR **** EB1 ****** EB2 ****** EB3 **** Total(EB)
2000 *** 2,306 ***** 7,233 ***** 5,360 *** 15,381
2001 *** 3,543 **** 21,355 **** 16,405 *** 41,720
2002 *** 2,820 **** 21,310 **** 17,428 *** 41,919
2003 *** 1,266 ***** 8,536 ****10,680 *** 20,818 :confused:
2004 *** 2,998 **** 16,262 **** 19,962 *** 39,496
2005 *** 6,336 **** 16,687 **** 23,399 *** 47,160 :)
These figures are from this link
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_1476.html
http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY05tableI.pdf - This is given at foreign out post.
EB - 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005
43129 39289 29712 28624 21290
and compare with
http://travel.state.gov/pdf/FY05tableII.pdf
and compare with below data.
YEAR **** EB1 ****** EB2 ****** EB3 **** Total(EB)
2000 *** 2,306 ***** 7,233 ***** 5,360 *** 15,381
2001 *** 3,543 **** 21,355 **** 16,405 *** 41,720
2002 *** 2,820 **** 21,310 **** 17,428 *** 41,919
2003 *** 1,266 ***** 8,536 ****10,680 *** 20,818 :confused:
2004 *** 2,998 **** 16,262 **** 19,962 *** 39,496
2005 *** 6,336 **** 16,687 **** 23,399 *** 47,160 :)
These figures are from this link
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/statistics/statistics_1476.html
snathan
08-30 08:29 PM
Hi,
There are 2 processing centers - Atlanta and Chicago...but all the audited cases can be processed only at Atlanta, i.e chicago audited cases will be transferred to Atlanta....
I believe there is only one processing center for PERM now. Only Atlanta is doing the PERM processing. All cases are trasfered to atlanta from chicago. Thats what I heared from Ron Gocher.
Thanks
There are 2 processing centers - Atlanta and Chicago...but all the audited cases can be processed only at Atlanta, i.e chicago audited cases will be transferred to Atlanta....
I believe there is only one processing center for PERM now. Only Atlanta is doing the PERM processing. All cases are trasfered to atlanta from chicago. Thats what I heared from Ron Gocher.
Thanks
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prom2
10-02 09:07 PM
So ND definitely matters. Check your position in queue using ND. Not RD.
So in my opinion with current situation PD matters in the end. Luck matters first. :(
I am agree with you.
So in my opinion with current situation PD matters in the end. Luck matters first. :(
I am agree with you.
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gvenkat
01-07 08:29 PM
THe Lottery is the dumbest piece to obtain GC. Imagine some guy who does nothing to the USA applies, comes here sucks the $$ out of the system by coming here, staying here and enjoying all monetray benefits of a GC like unemployment benefits etc
If this passes. THere would be a huge relief among people who have advanced degrees
If this passes. THere would be a huge relief among people who have advanced degrees
GCaspirations
10-02 11:53 AM
Can one apply for Social Security # after getting EAD card ?
Once you received your EAD card, you can apply for SSN.
Once you received your EAD card, you can apply for SSN.
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pappu
12-05 07:56 AM
At the time i was 2 semesters away from my Masters plus the mess my previous attorney had caused, my new attorney felt comfortable filing under EB3 because he felt i would have problems at the I-140 stage if i did not compete my Masters by that time.
In 2001 my attorney expected to have my GC by 2003 the latest and he was not counting on this mess with DBEC.
Hope all of us are through with this nightmare by end of 2007.http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2453
In 2001 my attorney expected to have my GC by 2003 the latest and he was not counting on this mess with DBEC.
Hope all of us are through with this nightmare by end of 2007.http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2453
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tinuverma
03-17 02:08 PM
I guess I will ask you the same...is that true both for H1 transfer and EAD?
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As far as I know there is no limitation on the size of the company. As long as they are a stable and sound company you are good to go.
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As far as I know there is no limitation on the size of the company. As long as they are a stable and sound company you are good to go.
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01-25 04:50 PM
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meridiani.planum
08-12 05:40 PM
if your applications are pending for over 6 months (approvable and your PD isc urrent for this long), file a writ of mandamus. Thats the only thing I have seen that moves USCIS to approve such old applications that are hiding behind the 'under background check' flag. Note that FBI namecheck is also now required to be completed within 180 days, so there is no excuse for an application to remain approvable but not approved beyond those timelines. talk to a good lawyer and pursue your case aggressively.
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Alabaman
01-19 08:57 PM
Nothing is going to get done in Congress anymore.
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stucklabor
09-19 06:43 PM
BKarnik is partially correct, I got a H1 extension for 3 years after my I-140 approval but my lawyers had to specifically call USCIS' attention to the approved I-140. It is possible that your lawyers did a good job of putting together the H1 application so USCIS was aware of your GC application and cross checked and gave you a 3 year extension based on the approved I-140.
Re: your situation with the new job situation, you should submit this question to the next Lawyers' conf call.
Re: your situation with the new job situation, you should submit this question to the next Lawyers' conf call.
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quizzer
02-23 04:54 PM
Thats true, When my I-140 was approved, as per the site my date was atleast 2 months away, but i received the approval notice. :)
Shirish,
Can you give more details about your I140?
EB2 or EB3?
NSC or TSC?
RD and AD???
Thanks
Shirish,
Can you give more details about your I140?
EB2 or EB3?
NSC or TSC?
RD and AD???
Thanks
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badluck
06-22 09:41 AM
TB test should be positive or nigative. does it make any different in immigration
any responce
any responce
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9411b
03-06 12:56 PM
You are not alone.
We have the same problem.
EAD applied in July 07, EAD card received in Oct 07 and the card was made expired 01/01/07 by WAC.
Called USCIS hotline, tried new applications with WAC, TSC and Info pass, still waiting if WAC is going to correct its own mess.
Big headache.
Good luck everyone.
J
PS. concurrently filing with NSC then moved to WAC then to TSC. Now pending!!!!:(:(
We have the same problem.
EAD applied in July 07, EAD card received in Oct 07 and the card was made expired 01/01/07 by WAC.
Called USCIS hotline, tried new applications with WAC, TSC and Info pass, still waiting if WAC is going to correct its own mess.
Big headache.
Good luck everyone.
J
PS. concurrently filing with NSC then moved to WAC then to TSC. Now pending!!!!:(:(
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07-16 07:24 PM
Hats off to IV :) :)
Waiting for the good news...
Waiting for the good news...
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jungalee43
02-16 12:35 PM
The most important issue related to Retrogression is the 'per country of birth' quota. The problem of retrogression would be much less severe if this quota is abolished as it was done I believe in AC21. Can anyone confirm about this provision in AC21?
I have also noticed that in the immigration voice presentation though the problem of 'country quota' is very effectively highlighted, it is not included in the goals. Even the president's report mentions this quota as a problem. I would like to draw attention of the admin to this. Removal of this quota should be one of our primary goals. Of course recycling of lost numbers and not counting dependants against quota are important goals. Can admin include this in the goals slide? I am planning to take this presentation when I meet the local congressman who has so far responded to my correspondence very sympathetically.
I have also noticed that in the immigration voice presentation though the problem of 'country quota' is very effectively highlighted, it is not included in the goals. Even the president's report mentions this quota as a problem. I would like to draw attention of the admin to this. Removal of this quota should be one of our primary goals. Of course recycling of lost numbers and not counting dependants against quota are important goals. Can admin include this in the goals slide? I am planning to take this presentation when I meet the local congressman who has so far responded to my correspondence very sympathetically.
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NKR
10-13 04:18 PM
Next time I'm thinking of going Tarzan style....
They take only finger prints.. ;)
They take only finger prints.. ;)
ksrk
12-10 04:36 PM
Just EB1 through EB3 adds to 149579.
Wonder how this tallies with numbers discussed especially during Aug and Sept. 2008...
Wonder how this tallies with numbers discussed especially during Aug and Sept. 2008...
Dhundhun
09-02 08:47 PM
Folks,
Due to the priority data transfer issue my I-485 application was rejected in June'08 (submitted based on June'08 visa bulletin).
As part of my application necessary medical exam tests were conducted in May'08. If I were to submit my application today based on the new visa bulletin do you think I need to take all medical exams again and re-submit? Won't the first set of medical exams have any validity?
Also, on the forums there is a talk about medical forms being changed? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks in advance for all your responses.
As I remember, the validity is one year.
Due to the priority data transfer issue my I-485 application was rejected in June'08 (submitted based on June'08 visa bulletin).
As part of my application necessary medical exam tests were conducted in May'08. If I were to submit my application today based on the new visa bulletin do you think I need to take all medical exams again and re-submit? Won't the first set of medical exams have any validity?
Also, on the forums there is a talk about medical forms being changed? Can anyone confirm?
Thanks in advance for all your responses.
As I remember, the validity is one year.
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