purplehazea
06-26 10:47 AM
Hi Jamie,
I do not think anyone should doubt the hard work and sincerity of illegal immigrants - be they mexican or any other nationality. All these folks come to USA seeking a better life. It is a fact that politicians have used illegal immigration to their advantage - how it suits them at a particular point in time. SO I do respect the hard working nature and contribution of illegal immigration.
However you will have to appreciate that the government's policy of grouping legal and illegal immigrants in any legistative decision has proven to be a nightmare for the legal immigrants. You will also appreciate that issues and circumstances surrounding legal immigrants are substantially different from illegal immigrant issues. However legal immigrants have to face the brunt of retrogression and other processing delays due to:
1) A nonsensical approach of first letting illegal immigrants to work here, not giving them their rights for long years or enforcing the laws to deport them and then suddenly legalizing the illegals, without improving INS/DHS processes or infrastructure/Visa quotas.
2) Prospects of another huge influx of legalization which as we all know, the INS is not capable of processing with its existing operational capabilities.
I am hopeful that whatever law emerges in the next year or two should handle illegal and legal issues separately. As far as xenophobia towards hispanics, everybody has their own view, so you cannot unfairly generalize that Indians have this racism towards mexican illegals. Personally, I do not have a problem with people expressing their ethnic identity, but as we know everybody need not think like us and everybody is entitled to an opinion.
Good luck and please continue to work for relief for legal immigrant community.
I do not think anyone should doubt the hard work and sincerity of illegal immigrants - be they mexican or any other nationality. All these folks come to USA seeking a better life. It is a fact that politicians have used illegal immigration to their advantage - how it suits them at a particular point in time. SO I do respect the hard working nature and contribution of illegal immigration.
However you will have to appreciate that the government's policy of grouping legal and illegal immigrants in any legistative decision has proven to be a nightmare for the legal immigrants. You will also appreciate that issues and circumstances surrounding legal immigrants are substantially different from illegal immigrant issues. However legal immigrants have to face the brunt of retrogression and other processing delays due to:
1) A nonsensical approach of first letting illegal immigrants to work here, not giving them their rights for long years or enforcing the laws to deport them and then suddenly legalizing the illegals, without improving INS/DHS processes or infrastructure/Visa quotas.
2) Prospects of another huge influx of legalization which as we all know, the INS is not capable of processing with its existing operational capabilities.
I am hopeful that whatever law emerges in the next year or two should handle illegal and legal issues separately. As far as xenophobia towards hispanics, everybody has their own view, so you cannot unfairly generalize that Indians have this racism towards mexican illegals. Personally, I do not have a problem with people expressing their ethnic identity, but as we know everybody need not think like us and everybody is entitled to an opinion.
Good luck and please continue to work for relief for legal immigrant community.
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pamposh
09-15 12:40 PM
Friends,
I have created a Shared Spreadsheet with the list of people who have pledged in favor of this effort.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgWehhQEb3jqwsRC8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
Everyone can view it, but unfortunately, i didn'y think it was ideal for everyone to edit. I will be more than happy to grant Edit access to a few more folks who are willing to help. Also, from security point of view, i think we should add our IV handle instead of real name. Since we have email ID's and ph#, we can be in touch as soon as it it time for action.
Please keep sending me ur details to add to this list. Remember, we only proceed if we have atleast 1000 pledged members.
I will keep publishing this sheet from time to time on this thread so people know.
Please keep pouring in with ur suggestions.
My suggestion, please do not make the phone number and email ids available in public. Many (like me) may not like any/everyone knowing my phone number and email id.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
I have created a Shared Spreadsheet with the list of people who have pledged in favor of this effort.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgWehhQEb3jqwsRC8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
Everyone can view it, but unfortunately, i didn'y think it was ideal for everyone to edit. I will be more than happy to grant Edit access to a few more folks who are willing to help. Also, from security point of view, i think we should add our IV handle instead of real name. Since we have email ID's and ph#, we can be in touch as soon as it it time for action.
Please keep sending me ur details to add to this list. Remember, we only proceed if we have atleast 1000 pledged members.
I will keep publishing this sheet from time to time on this thread so people know.
Please keep pouring in with ur suggestions.
My suggestion, please do not make the phone number and email ids available in public. Many (like me) may not like any/everyone knowing my phone number and email id.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
gjoe
10-09 06:43 AM
It would be more effective if not effecient. You need not wait until the year end to issue visas, visas can be issued using a mathematical model which would allow old PD filers to get a visa ahead of others as soon as his case comes in and other criterias are fullfilled. Basically no one needs to wait for filing I485. People with old PD will get visa numbers first as soon as they enter the application.
You're kidding me...How is your suggestion more efficient..????
So they should keep sorting and moving visa numbers from one application to another based on PD.??
if thats the case they would have to wait to give GC on the very last day of the year...
You're kidding me...How is your suggestion more efficient..????
So they should keep sorting and moving visa numbers from one application to another based on PD.??
if thats the case they would have to wait to give GC on the very last day of the year...
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02-14 09:54 PM
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aachoo
05-09 11:22 PM
A suggestion about the contents of these emails/letters:
Why do we insist on proposing the solution to our problems? One person wants to remove country limits, another wants 5 year EADs, yet another wants to file 485 regardless of priority dates.
I see 2 problems with this:
1- The external world doesn't care or understand. Do you think the average CNN viewer understands what retrogression or priority dates are? For that matter does anyone in the White House?
2- This divides us by EB category, country, pre/post July '07, EB3 to EB2 porter etc.
In your letters please focus on the problem. If invited to the table we can propose solutions, but now is the time to highlight the problems and the potential impact it has on the US economy, our families, and communities.
Examples:
Impact on US economy:
- I have significant buying power, however I am unable to make any substantial longer term financial decisions due to immigration uncertainties. I may be asked to leave the country on a moment's notice. If there was some stability, I may be looking to invest in a home or a new business
Impact on our families:
- My spouse cannot work. She is qualified and capable. Yet due to the vagaries of the immigration system, she cannot pursue full time employment without significant additional paperwork
Impact on the communities:
- Most of us hold strong political and social views. The current system makes it untenable and in some cases illegal (like donating to political parties) to participate in the democratic process. In the grand machine that is the American democratic system, we are probably the only group of people that are taxed and yet have no representation whatsoever.
Maybe these points are not strong enough. But if they are not, then it is not worth anyone's time to pay any attention. Find the legal immigrant population's "we do the jobs Americans will not do" slogan!
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Why do we insist on proposing the solution to our problems? One person wants to remove country limits, another wants 5 year EADs, yet another wants to file 485 regardless of priority dates.
I see 2 problems with this:
1- The external world doesn't care or understand. Do you think the average CNN viewer understands what retrogression or priority dates are? For that matter does anyone in the White House?
2- This divides us by EB category, country, pre/post July '07, EB3 to EB2 porter etc.
In your letters please focus on the problem. If invited to the table we can propose solutions, but now is the time to highlight the problems and the potential impact it has on the US economy, our families, and communities.
Examples:
Impact on US economy:
- I have significant buying power, however I am unable to make any substantial longer term financial decisions due to immigration uncertainties. I may be asked to leave the country on a moment's notice. If there was some stability, I may be looking to invest in a home or a new business
Impact on our families:
- My spouse cannot work. She is qualified and capable. Yet due to the vagaries of the immigration system, she cannot pursue full time employment without significant additional paperwork
Impact on the communities:
- Most of us hold strong political and social views. The current system makes it untenable and in some cases illegal (like donating to political parties) to participate in the democratic process. In the grand machine that is the American democratic system, we are probably the only group of people that are taxed and yet have no representation whatsoever.
Maybe these points are not strong enough. But if they are not, then it is not worth anyone's time to pay any attention. Find the legal immigrant population's "we do the jobs Americans will not do" slogan!
-a
sam2006
07-20 03:57 PM
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anzerraja
07-19 07:16 PM
Can you take the job to give us an update on the total amount pledged so far, at certain points in between the thread , as it grows ?
Zoooom thanks for doing this. Anzerraja good work. You two work good as a team.
Twicetwice & Anzerraja, your generous pledge has inspired me to pledge $100 for now, more later.
We should merge all other threads dealing with this issue over here for convenience
Zoooom thanks for doing this. Anzerraja good work. You two work good as a team.
Twicetwice & Anzerraja, your generous pledge has inspired me to pledge $100 for now, more later.
We should merge all other threads dealing with this issue over here for convenience
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fetch_gc
10-03 11:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohan99
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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PDOCT05
i99
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Rohan99
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July 5th
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July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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gcspace
July 16, at 11.16 am at Nebraska signed by F.HEINAUER
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fetch_gc
Please see signature for more details.Thx-- fetch_gc
Originally Posted by Rohan99
If you are still waiting then please add your name
Important: if you receive the RN then plz write in front of your name, what is RN(if honored actual RN), how did u get RN(check, lawyer, called USCIS), FP date,
July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William
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lutherpraveen
PDOCT05
i99
helpme1234
kingnaga
waitforgc123
Rohan99
gclongwaytogo
cool_cat
sivanu
GKBest
bluesky1
July 5th
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chalamcharla
July 16, 9:00 am at Nebraska signed by R Pitcher
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viveckj99
gcspace
July 16, at 11.16 am at Nebraska signed by F.HEINAUER
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fetch_gc
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Janisaris
09-13 12:00 PM
Seems that very few people have recieved anything who have filed between 4th and 16th aug.
Looks like all the applications received till the Friday July 20th got transfered to either Texas or California. Good news is that checks are getting cleared this week. We should be getting receipt soon. Hang in there.
Looks like all the applications received till the Friday July 20th got transfered to either Texas or California. Good news is that checks are getting cleared this week. We should be getting receipt soon. Hang in there.
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tonyHK12
02-01 10:31 AM
I have been thinking in similar lines for quite sometime now. I have decided to wait till September 2012 to see if dates reach my PD which is October 2007.
If not i am strongly looking at New Zealand too...
Whats wrong with Canada? I see many don't mention it these days. I guess its pretty decent for technology.
If not i am strongly looking at New Zealand too...
Whats wrong with Canada? I see many don't mention it these days. I guess its pretty decent for technology.
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atlfp
05-05 11:35 AM
Wonder if you happened to mention the time line question? One section in the "Guest Worker" chapter says it can not be implemented 90s before the study, would that only cover the "Guest Worker" section or the whole bill? The house will try their best to push an enforcement first approach, if they gain more on that, then we might end up with a bill passed but never take effect. That would be the worst situation.
Today I spoke to a Representative who deals with immigration issue at Sen Mike Dewine's (R-OH) office. I spoke to him for 15 minutes to understand what he and his senator think about this CIR.
Here is he and his senator feels about this bill. It is difficult for him to say that when CIR bill will be introduced in senate floor . It depend on Majority and Minority leaders to decide. Majority leader told to the media that he will introduce before the end of the may, he is mostly consistent, but there are several bills where he has committed a timeline and till today it is not on the floor.
However he told that once CIR pass, legal immigration is already taken care of, but if it does not passes there are bills like SKIL which will be put before the floor. But CIR has to fail or pass before you see this SKILL bill on the floor.
Today I spoke to a Representative who deals with immigration issue at Sen Mike Dewine's (R-OH) office. I spoke to him for 15 minutes to understand what he and his senator think about this CIR.
Here is he and his senator feels about this bill. It is difficult for him to say that when CIR bill will be introduced in senate floor . It depend on Majority and Minority leaders to decide. Majority leader told to the media that he will introduce before the end of the may, he is mostly consistent, but there are several bills where he has committed a timeline and till today it is not on the floor.
However he told that once CIR pass, legal immigration is already taken care of, but if it does not passes there are bills like SKIL which will be put before the floor. But CIR has to fail or pass before you see this SKILL bill on the floor.
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amsgc
07-05 12:02 AM
Hey thx man...I had no idea about this. I will search for the post and read up on it.
Is this something that will be impacted by the Jul17th: no Labor substitution rule or are they completely different..
Retaining your PD, using a new I-140, is not the same as Labor substitution. There are several members who have successfully ported their PD, and may be able to advise you better.
Is this something that will be impacted by the Jul17th: no Labor substitution rule or are they completely different..
Retaining your PD, using a new I-140, is not the same as Labor substitution. There are several members who have successfully ported their PD, and may be able to advise you better.
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rdehar
04-30 01:00 PM
Are we going to see the bulletin move to 2002,2003,2004,2005 ? in the next year .. wow its backed up 7 yrs..
Any realistic numbers how many EB3 India pending cases are there with PDs in each of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ...
Anyone know any links, USCIS keeps on posting some data all the time.
Any realistic numbers how many EB3 India pending cases are there with PDs in each of 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004 ...
Anyone know any links, USCIS keeps on posting some data all the time.
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nk2006
05-02 11:37 AM
Where is the relief for foreign educated professional who is filed under EB3.
They seem to exempt only for extraordinary ability ppl.
Section 201 item two says exemption for all advanced degree holder who worked in US for atleast 3 years in a "related" field. I know there might be issues with definition of "related" but seems job can be EB2/EB3 as long as the beneficiary has an advanced degree and the job is in related field - they are exempt. Am I reading it correctly? I think is how its in STEM right now. A very good back bill for us (if CIR fails to materialize).
They seem to exempt only for extraordinary ability ppl.
Section 201 item two says exemption for all advanced degree holder who worked in US for atleast 3 years in a "related" field. I know there might be issues with definition of "related" but seems job can be EB2/EB3 as long as the beneficiary has an advanced degree and the job is in related field - they are exempt. Am I reading it correctly? I think is how its in STEM right now. A very good back bill for us (if CIR fails to materialize).
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FinalGC
09-01 10:58 AM
How am I being a racist? I'm just pointing out the fact that North and South Indians belong to different races and USCIS should stop clubbing them together.
Pooja.......The way you are going, very soon, you will start saying Northeast guys vs MidWest vs Mountain Time people vs...Pacific Time people.......If you continue with this attitude, all you do is DIVIDE, rather than UNITE.....Maybe you need to understand that such comments are considered racists
Pooja.......The way you are going, very soon, you will start saying Northeast guys vs MidWest vs Mountain Time people vs...Pacific Time people.......If you continue with this attitude, all you do is DIVIDE, rather than UNITE.....Maybe you need to understand that such comments are considered racists
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gc_on_demand
09-10 10:11 AM
Either the US Consulate got the EB-3 India date wrong or there was a typo in the Oct Visa Bulletin. I wish/hope there was a typo in the bulletin and Mumbai consulate got it right....Cut Off Dates- Consulate General of the United States Mumbai, India (http://mumbai.usconsulate.gov/cut_off_dates.html)
You can check dates on phone line of DHS.Phone number is at bottom of bulletin.
You can check dates on phone line of DHS.Phone number is at bottom of bulletin.
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sanjuatl
09-08 03:44 PM
Just saw the below mail from one user in immigration portal dot com....not sure some say Visa numbers are done for this year and same time we see Approvals...May be the below one gives some hopeeeeee....Just a little bit ...
Just checked the online account AND the 800 no. status. I see the following status email:
On September 8, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Below are my details:
PERM Labor filed : 07/0105
PERM Labor approval date : 09/19/2005
I-140 and I-485 filed on: 09/26/2005
I-140 Approval date: 01/26/2006
First FP:10/18/2005
Second FP: 04/19/2007
Third and Last FP: 09/03/2008
I-485 Approval Date: 09/08/2008
Filed for Expedited AP on 07/22/2008. That was approved on 08/14/2008.
Went to India on 08/19/2008 and came back to US on 09/01/2008 to do FP as lawyer's office had emailed me about the FP letter they had received right after I had left!
For I-485, took help from local congressman's office in 2007 for name check clearing and security check clearing. They also helped me last month for getting the FP appointment letter for expired FP.
Finally, thanks to you all and this forum for uncomparable help, free info., insights and opinions.
I wish good luck to all of you that have pending cases.
My service center is/was TSC.
Natinality: Indian
Catagory: EB2
Thanks
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PD: 9/27/02 EB3 VSC->TSC - 3/15/07
I-140 - ND:7/16/05 Ad:4/3/06 LUD:12/22/07
2nd I-140 - RD:4/10/07 AD:4/21/07 LUD:8/5/07
I-485 - RD:6/30/05 ND:7/16/05 LUD:8/10,11,22/05, 3/27/07, 7/20,22,27/07, 2/3/08(wife) 9/30,10/1, 2/6/08(self) AD:?/?/??
EAD1:ND:7/16/05 AD:8/19
EAD2:ND:5/22/06 AD:7/17
EAD3:ND:5/21/07 AD:7/16 8/3
EAD4:ND:5/09/08 AD:6/03, 6/19.
AP1:ND:7/16/05 AD:8/26/05
AP2:ND:1/31/08 AD:3/3/08
FP1:8/10/05 Code 3
Fp2: 5/10/07 Code1
NC Cleared: 9/21/05
Just checked the online account AND the 800 no. status. I see the following status email:
On September 8, 2008, we ordered production of your new card. Please allow 30 days for your card to be mailed to you. If we need something from you we will contact you. If you move before you receive the card, call customer service. You can also receive automatic e-mail updates as we process your case. Just follow the link below to register.
Below are my details:
PERM Labor filed : 07/0105
PERM Labor approval date : 09/19/2005
I-140 and I-485 filed on: 09/26/2005
I-140 Approval date: 01/26/2006
First FP:10/18/2005
Second FP: 04/19/2007
Third and Last FP: 09/03/2008
I-485 Approval Date: 09/08/2008
Filed for Expedited AP on 07/22/2008. That was approved on 08/14/2008.
Went to India on 08/19/2008 and came back to US on 09/01/2008 to do FP as lawyer's office had emailed me about the FP letter they had received right after I had left!
For I-485, took help from local congressman's office in 2007 for name check clearing and security check clearing. They also helped me last month for getting the FP appointment letter for expired FP.
Finally, thanks to you all and this forum for uncomparable help, free info., insights and opinions.
I wish good luck to all of you that have pending cases.
My service center is/was TSC.
Natinality: Indian
Catagory: EB2
Thanks
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PD: 9/27/02 EB3 VSC->TSC - 3/15/07
I-140 - ND:7/16/05 Ad:4/3/06 LUD:12/22/07
2nd I-140 - RD:4/10/07 AD:4/21/07 LUD:8/5/07
I-485 - RD:6/30/05 ND:7/16/05 LUD:8/10,11,22/05, 3/27/07, 7/20,22,27/07, 2/3/08(wife) 9/30,10/1, 2/6/08(self) AD:?/?/??
EAD1:ND:7/16/05 AD:8/19
EAD2:ND:5/22/06 AD:7/17
EAD3:ND:5/21/07 AD:7/16 8/3
EAD4:ND:5/09/08 AD:6/03, 6/19.
AP1:ND:7/16/05 AD:8/26/05
AP2:ND:1/31/08 AD:3/3/08
FP1:8/10/05 Code 3
Fp2: 5/10/07 Code1
NC Cleared: 9/21/05
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On the same boat. Filed SR twice. No fp notice yet.
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04-30 02:02 PM
I can tell you there are roughly 100,000 labor applications filed (50,000 EB3) between Aug 2003 and Dec 2003 for EB India category. The reason was everybody wanted to clear thru regular process before PERM takes over. Those Labors filed after Aug 2003 and before PERM started are moved into backlog and are fully cleary last 4 th quarter. And so 90% of those EB3s may be still there (45,000) hanging. EB2s could have been cleared substantially till Dec 2003. It is all my guess work and not sceintific or factual. it is vague and could as well be inaccurate. I know that lot of people from georgia did get their GC's in EB3 with pd ..dec 2003. I am guessing that for many states the dates are similar except for california and NY ..but then there were lot of companies that closed down ..ofcourse labor subs changed things too for the worse. also 19000 visas went to eb3 I ..last year I think. so overall numbers may not be that high till 2004 mid I guess
Naveen
07-09 04:05 PM
Added this info to the profile of Mr.Gonzalez in Wikipedia and also to USCIS and DOS.
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09-23 04:34 PM
If someone ports from eb3 to eb2 they should get the priority date of the day they were eligible to file an eb2 and not be able to carry the date from eb3.
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
ha ha ha ha ha .... till few days back EB2 guys were saying we are with you.... do not be jealous.... fight together for EB... now after this article, now some of EB2 people are not happy with rules & sharing true color of spirit they were talking about...
Porting makes sense in a family based visa where your petitioner can file for an application while he is still a green card holder and then becomes a citizen which upgrades the beneficiary's category as well.
On an employment visa you file for an eb3 when you are eligible for an eb3 job, you file for an eb2 when you are eligible for an eb2 job. Why would you be able to jump ahead in the eb2 line when you were clearly did not have an eb2 job ? Just because you filed an application at some point of time in eb3 and waited a decade to get a better job doesn't mean someone else has to pay for your (pick one - laziness, ineptitude, lack of skill or lack of knowledge).
Most of IV Core is made of eb3 applicants and therefore there has never been any push from the core on this matter. And as someone said .. You ARE eating my lunch..
ha ha ha ha ha .... till few days back EB2 guys were saying we are with you.... do not be jealous.... fight together for EB... now after this article, now some of EB2 people are not happy with rules & sharing true color of spirit they were talking about...
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